What would surprise Jesus about Christmas 2025?

The Southern Baptist Convention’s annual meeting in Dallas, on June 10, 2025. An increasingly loud contingent supports the Trump administration’s efforts to deport illegal immigrants. (Desiree Ríos/The New York Times) By NICHOLAS KRISTOF This is the latest in my occasional series of conversations about Christianity. Previously, I spoke with the Rev. Timothy Keller, President Jimmy Carter, evangelical writer Beth Moore, professor Elaine Pagels and others. Here I speak with Bart Ehrman, a...